Skyrim talk:Alchemist's Shack

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The Alchemist that lived here is dead.[edit]

I found a corpse in the wilderness - I believe to the east of the shack - of a character named "Alchemist" — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 14:47 on 25 November 2011

If you read his journal he talks about going out to study mushrooms. Upstream from Evergreen Grove you will find an alchemist's camp with another journal mentioning the mushrooms and that he intends to follow the river downstream to see what effect the nirnroots are having on the fauna down there. You will find the body of this alchemist on a slab in the middle of the pool in Evergreen Grove. — Unsigned comment by RumblePen (talkcontribs) at 03:17 on 27 November 2011
Hmm, Evergreen Grove (northwest of Falkreath) is quite a ways west of Helgen and Riverwood - which is to say, it's very far west of the Alchemist's Shack. Across a mountain range even. But unless we find any other dead alchemists closer to the Shack, I guess that's what happened. I suppose the mushroom writings clinch it. -RedKnight 01:26, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Actually I am quite interested to explore where this alchemist has gone. Would you mind adding more details to the page for how to find this alchemist? --Joshua.yathin.yu 16:41, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
I am quite certain that they Alchemists shack (riften area) and the Alchemists camp (N of Falkreath) area are related, and the dead Alchemist in Evergreen grove is in fact the NPC who lived in the shack, the journels read similiarly, and I just get the feeling the two locations are related. It would be almost too coincidental if they weren't related. — Unsigned comment by Esmok Kronik (talkcontribs) at 04:46 on 5 June 2012


The article seems to contradict itself - first it says that the end table and the barrel inbetween the closets are safe, then it says the barrel inside does respawn. Which is the correct one? 11:39, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I can confirm what is and what is not respawnable in the shack. You can do it yourself by placing stuff and then fast traveling to somewhere else. Use the 'set timescale to 99999' command to make a day pass every second or so. (doing so outside is pretty freaky) Wait the 40 days, set timescale back to 20 (which is normal), and travel back to the house.

Anyway, I can confirm that everything you find in and near the house resets to how you found it every 40 days, with the exception of the Alchemist's Journal found on the end table, and the end table its self. Items placed on the shelves will be heaped up in the middle of the house, but things in the end table are safe. 05:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate Moved Items?[edit]

The article states that "if you move items from there spot or take them they will respawn in their original spot however the moved item will not disappear meaning you can duplicate the original items." Can anyone confirm that? Usually, items that are moved around will just return to their original location when a cell respawns. Phaid 08:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I think you have to "take" the item, then drop it.--Amsuko 20:30, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Changes Made: Added "Notable Items" with "Butterfly in a Jar"[edit]

As per wiki guidlines, I am explaining my edit: Another location with a "Bug in a Jar" listed it in a "Notable Items" section. I just used the same format to add Butterfly in a Jar. Does anyone know what the runes on the lid say? (underside of lid) --Amsuko 20:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

You only have to explain an edit on a talk page if it's a controversial change or otherwise can't be explained within the space for the edit summary. As for your question, assuming it's in Draconic, try asking one of these people. They'll probably be able to help. Robin Hoodtalk 21:21, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
It looked more like nordic runes to me, something alike to Elder Futhark, but I couldn't make out what it says. --Alfwyn 21:24, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I had already searched the wiki for a page about runes/languages but could only find a page on the Dragon Alphabet, which didn't match. I agree it looks like Nordic runes, but only 1 or 2 of the letters match. Looks like an angular "PIg" or "6I4" based on which way is "up." But that would be "giant/god-ice-?" or "joy-ice-?", neither of which make sense. --Amsuko 21:49, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Books on the shelf random?[edit]

The article says that on the shelf there's a copy of Mixed Unit Tactics and a copy of Biography of Barenziah, v3. But the first time I entered the shack there was a copy of The Firsthold Revolt and a copy of The Alduin/Akatosh Dichotomy. I reloaded, tried again and the books were different again. So I guess that the books in the shack are random and maybe the article should mention it. --Cirkulis (talk) 02:06, 19 February 2015 (GMT)

Thanks for picking up on that. The two books are indeed dummy books and randomly generated as per the CK. The only book scripted to be there is the Alchemist's Journal. --Beezer1029 (talk) 14:32, 19 February 2015 (GMT)

Removed Note[edit]

There was a note on the page suggesting that the alchemist who owns this shack is the same as the one who set up the Alchemist's Camp and whose corpse can be found at Evergreen Grove. There is no solid evidence that these two alchemists are related, and while it's not conclusive, the fact that the Form IDs of various objects at the shack and the camp are completely dissimilar (most notably including the two journals - shack, camp) also suggests that there's no intended connection between the two. Contrary to the assertion at the top of this talk page, I don't see a lot of similarity in writing style between the two journals. One tends towards point-form-like sentences, while the other uses full sentences throughout; one uses more formal wording, while the other one is less so; one uses the phrase "heading out" while the other uses the phrase "journey out".

The mushrooms link doesn't do it for me, either. One alchemist talks about collecting mushrooms because his supply is low, while the other talks about studying the local mushrooms because they're larger than normal and also to see what effect they're having on the local ecosystem. That sounds like two very different purposes to me.

Now, having said all that, none of that is conclusive proof that they're not the same alchemist, either. Generally speaking, though, we don't engage in speculation on UESP, so I went ahead and removed the note due to lack of evidence. If someone can demonstrate a stronger link than I'm seeing, I have no objections to that info being restored. Robin Hood  (talk) 07:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)