Oblivion talk:Alval Uvani

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Alval Hostile to NPCs[edit]

Alval Uvani is a sour sort, to be sure, but some of his behavior is very odd indeed! I had just begun the master trainer quest from Sindarion, and I was still in the West Weald Inn, facing Erina Jeranus at the counter when suddenly Alval started attacking someone. Turning around, I saw him fighting with Graklak gro-Buglump. Other wiki entries have suggested that this can happen perhaps because Graklak tries to steal from Alval, but I didn't see that happen, so I don't know for sure. Anyway, I felt that Graklak needed some help, so I pulled out Goldbrand and hit Alval once, thinking that he was the aggressor. Alval responded with the normal ally response of "I'm on YOUR side!", so I stopped. Well, they both ran outside then back in again, and Alval finished off poor Graklak, killing him right there in the middle of the inn. The odd thing was that instead of returning to his normal, sour self, Alval then immediately went after Erina Jeranus behind the counter. She fled outside with Alval in pursuit. She must have gone far enough down the street to get the Skingrad guards' attention, because by the time I got outside, they had already engaged Alval in the street at the bottom of the hill and soon killed him. Erina returned to her normal post and seemed no worse off for the experience. What do you think happened to provoke this behavior from Alval Uvani? I guess he treated me as an ally because I have just started the Dark Brotherhood quest line, and so as a member of the DB he might leave me alone. And I can understand the bit with Graklak, but Erina never moved from behind the counter as far as I could tell, so why did he go after her too? Tyranun 18:54, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

Alval Uvani attacking other NPCs is just peculiar, but not unusual, AI behaviour. There is no obvious animation for stealing/pickpocketing when NPCs do it, so you could just have missed that.
"I'm on your side!" is always said when you hit a non-hostile NPC for the first time. In this case the context was a bit confusing, but the phrase just refers to the fact that the NPC is not hostile, and it doesn't refer to the sides taken in combat. --Timenn < talk > 05:33, 8 May 2008 (EDT)
This isnt peculiar at all, and it has nothing to do with Alval's eccentricities. What would have happened is Graklak tried to pickpocket Alval, and he responded accordingly, and since he was a normal non-hostile citizen; he said 'Im on your side' (nothing to do with factions) and once he killed Graklak, Erina responded because she shares a faction (not faction as in 'faction', faction as in the proper PC stat, e.g. they are both citizens of the same city) with Graklak. Erina 'did' aggress first, its just that she has a low aggression (much like deer) and so they go to attack but then run straight away. And when they left the inn, the guards saw Alval as the aggressor so they responded as they should.
Hang around the waterfront district and this sort of thing can occur often. — Unsigned comment by Mortariit (talkcontribs) at 12:29 on 31 July 2010

Cure for Paralysis?[edit]

Is it possible to cure his mead related paralysis? --M'aiq the Liar Talk 16:41, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

Quest Item[edit]

Is his body considered a quest item? i killed him outside the imperial city, and i stumbled upon his body, untouched, several in-game months laterBaconator96 19:24, 31 January 2009 (EST)

Yes. That's why he is in the Oblivion-Permanent Corpses category. –RpehTCE 01:53, 2 February 2009 (EST)
Whoops, missed that. thanks. Baconator96 14:02, 14 February 2009 (EST)

CTD when picking/opening door to 2nd floor rooms[edit]

I got the PC version of Oblivion a few months ago through Steam when Bethesda had a big sale on all things Obivion. I've had the Xbox version for over a year, but went ahead and got the PC version due to all the great mods out there. I never experience a crash with this door on the 360 version, but I also have some big mods running. Right now I have...

- Every Bethesda DLC pack
- OOO v 1.33
- KCAS leveling mod

Has anyone else experience a CTD at this door? To be clear, I'm able to pick the lock, but as soon as the lock pick screen starts to fade and I hear the click of the door opening, that's when the CTD hits. So, after the lock is picked, but before the load screen for the other side.

If I can't get any help, I suppose I can try to sequentially turn off each mod component and see if that can get me in the door, but I'm concerned that, since phasing through the door will create an autosave, that if I re-enable the mods on the other side, it'll mess up my toon.

Does anyone know a cleaner way to get past this door, perhaps using a console command to teleport myself into the zone on the other side? I'd appreciate any feedback/suggestions this community can offer.

Servius 19:31, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

If it happens every time and you've never been there before, it's probably the result of a corrupt installation. If you haven't already done so at this point (given how old this message is), you might want to try re-installing everything. Don't forget to backup your saved games, just to be on the safe side. —Robin Hood (TalkE-mailContribs) 23:31, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
The mod that causes this is Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul, it crashes when inside that room on the 2nd floor of Alval Ulvani's house no matter what. The door is not causing the crash it's something that the mod creator done there, it even crashes when trying to edit that room with OOO enabled in the construction set. — Unsigned comment by 92.9.238.17 (talk) at 21:10 on 13 October 2009
Fixed in OOO 1.34 Beta 5. -- Renas (TalkContribs) -- 13 January 2010 14:51 PM (UTC)

Factions[edit]

Why is he in the Bravil Castle Faction?--Arch-Mage Matt 23:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, he's not. I just double-checked, and he's supposed to be in the Bravil Citizens faction, not the Bravil Castle faction. Thanks for pointing it out! –Eshetalk 00:41, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

This Guy Is Retarded. Seriously Retarded.[edit]

He doesn't leave Olav's Tap and Tack EVER, which makes it SUPREMLY HARD for me to kill him. He hangs around the place, eating and drinking, and at exactly 3:00pm, 7:00pm, and 10:00am he goes into sneak mode, sneaks into Raynil Dralas's room, and stays there for half an hour. No-one else seems to notice; he doesn't steal anything; he just stands there, in sneak mode, and if you're nearby, staring at you and yelling "Get out of my way before I turn your bones to ash!" Talking to him gives you the standard pleasant reply, but it doesn't get him to do anything. I'm on Xbox360. No plugins downloaded. No patches downloaded. 203.14.52.47 07:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Alval Uvani can die on his own.[edit]

So I've recently started playing Oblivion again with a few mods this time, so the mods could be the culprit. I don't think so, however, as it was a non-modded NPC that did him in. I was on the Dark Brotherhood quest to kill this guy, and had been putting it off for some time. Then one night all of the sudden I got a quest update saying that I had killed Alval Uvani and should go to the next dead drop location. Something or someone had killed him, and it wasn't me. So out of curiosity of what happened to him, I typed into my console the command to teleport me to him. I found him dead outside of the Leyawiin West Gate, quite literally sprawled out on the front stoop of the Five Riders Stables. I spent a couple seconds wondering what could have happened to him when I began hearing a clamor from the stables themselves. A Spriggan had found its way to the stables and had killed Alval Uvani and was now attacking the horses. I killed the Spriggan without any further casualties, but I'm fairly certain that she was what killed Alval Uvani. I don't know if this kind of thing has happened to anyone else or not, but if this is common I think it may need to be added to the main page under notes. Mole126 21:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, as stated in the article, he will often be killed by wildlife while traveling.--Corevette789 21:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

If someone else kills Alval Uvani...[edit]

Well, i was just leaving Bruma around 1:50 am, when suddenly a conjurer rushes to the guard posted outside, of course killed him. After that further down the road i found the body of Alval Uvani, and i was wondering if the Brotherhood quest is still obtainable/able to finsh it, if someone else kills this NPC. — Unsigned comment by 213.233.92.70 (talk) at 23:11 on 5 September 2010 (GMT)

All the quest looks for is that Uvani dies, no matter how and no matter who does it. --Darkle ~ Talk 05:45, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
When I was engaged in the quest "Goblin Trouble" I decided to do things the hard (And fun) way by going to Cracked Wood Cave and killing off every living thing in there. As I was just about to enter, I happened to glance a little sideways, and in a little depression in the wall was none other than Alval Uvani, arrow sticking in side and all! I took the dagger, of course, but I remembered him from a Dark Brotherhood quest and I'm like "HOW DID HE GET THERE?". It seems this is happening a lot, but I want to know why. If anyone could help, that would be nice. Thanks in advance 24.222.66.21 15:43, 20 September 2010 (UTC)CMPUTR_GEEK
If it's after the Dark Brotherhood quest A Matter of Honor, then there's a serious problem, since he should be dead at that point by your own hand, as far as I recall. Before then, he wanders all over the place and it would be quite reasonable to find him dead from some wandering monster or whatever. Cracked Wood Cave lies between Bruma and Leyawiin, so he probably just got killed while he was on his way between the two. Robin Hoodtalk 21:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
It may be a little late, but I think he meant that he remembered Alval from the quest previously, not from the same save file. So I dont think that he killed Alval and then had his body magically appear.--68.60.16.174 15:58, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Found BOTH Vintage 399 wines in house.[edit]

I pickpocketed his housekey, and entered his house in Leyawiin. From the front door, I turned left and walked down all the way through that hall, and turned left again and walked into the downstairs dining room. From that room's door, I immediately turned right, and in the cabinet oriented with the cabinet to the player's right and a chest to the left, I found both Vintage 399 wines required for Sinderion's "Alchemy Training" quest. Was this a lucky strike, or are they hard-scripted to be there? Predcon 08:33, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

You got lucky. That cupboard contains three LL0FoodUpperClassDrinks75, each of which gives a 1/6 chance of a vintage 399 wine, although there's a 25% chance of there being nothing. The chance of getting one bottle of each (and nothing else) is about 1.2%. rpeh •TCE 09:01, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
It would have been even better if I hadn't already found a bottle of each beforehand and completed the Alchemy Training quest already... :p Predcon 09:42, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

His trip.[edit]

I have noticed the 4 times I have done this quest he is never in any of the places on that paper. I found him inside Waynett inn , wandering around Roxey Inn , he even started sleeping in some camp bed. I don't know if this is of any use , but I got confused when he weren't where it said he would be. JackTurbo95 08:00, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Update on his schudule, and a question about his AI Package[edit]

Alval Uvani ; Update on his schudule, and a question about his AI Package, Apparently alval uvani is a damn theif!!!!, has anyone seen this yet?

This may be old, or already known to the public, but alval uvani also steals from people. While doing the cropsford quest, and killing the leader of the two rival goblin clans, upon completion of the quest, I spotted none other than Alval walking across the bridge. I saved at that very moment, because I knew across the bridge were two bandits who would slay him , so I followed him from that point on, towards leyawinn, however, instead of ending up in leyawinn, he took a shortcut that allowed him to cross over the water, a small bridge, and continued up towards bravil. Now, I happened to have a follower, a knight of the nine, following me, and at one point, after about 2 hours ingame time, He stopped walking for about 30 seconds, and entered sneak mode, doing a 180 degree turn, walking straight towards me, he passed me, and stole a tamika wine from my follower, and then proceeded to DRINK IT RIGHT THERE INFRONT OF US after having stole it. He drank it for about 3 hours ingame time, and then continued his journey towards bravil. Once he got there, he then stole from the lonely sutior's clerk, TWICE. All in all, if you get near him for long enough, he will steal from everyone around him. I used the "Setfactionrank 02000cce 1" in order to cause a city guard to be part of the knights of the nine faction so the " Come with me " option is available when I talk to the specific guard i want to follow me , and had one of the city guards follow me around and am now currently trying to find him again to see if he'll steal from the guard.

I can supply snapshots of him going into sneak mode, and can supply snapshots of him reaching his hand out while in sneak mode as if to steal from my follower and then drinking exactly what he just stole

My question is, He has alot of gold and is supposedly rich, so why does his ai package have him steal and risk getting killed / arrested?, can't he just buy whatever he needs?, and / or am I just lucky and nobody else has seen him do this?— Unsigned comment by 24.63.171.231 (talk) at 23:23 on 27 December 2011

It's because of his low responsibility. If an NPC has a responsibility of 30 or less they will resort to stealing to complete certain packages. Alval Uvani probably had a package that told him to eat, and since he doesn't carry any food he has to steal it. The same behavior can be observed for Shameer and City-Swimmer. Wolok gro-Barok 11:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
In Bruma, I have seen Alval Uvani sitting at a table in Olav's Tap and Tack. Suddenly, Alval will go into sneak mode and sit down a nearby table and begin eating. Presumably he stole the food which was on the table and was brazenly eating it in front of everyone. I can't confirm that he stole the food, but I have seen that behavior from him three times. — Unsigned comment by Ethereal (talkcontribs) at 10:28 on 7 February 2012 (GMT)
As Wolok said it's because he has low responsibility. He will steal food whenever he is supposed to eat but doesn't have any food with him. City-swimmer will often do the same thing which will often lead to her being killed by the Bruma guards. RIM 10:32, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

What even.[edit]

I was just starting the Thieves Guild quest line and was selling some stolen goods at Olav's Tap and Tack on Loredas when I saw Alval Uvani in the lower rooms sneaking, and running into a wall. He did this for about 5 game hours. There were about 6 people in the Tap and Tack and It looked like he was about to pickpocket somebody. I know the walking into a wall is just a glitch, but I found it a bit weird that he was sneaking while doing so. — Unsigned comment by Lady Luck (talkcontribs) at 11:47 on 10 October 2013

From Oblivion:Responsibility: Responsibility is an internal game attribute between 0 and 100 for NPCs that determines the NPC's lawfulness. If an NPC has a responsibility of 30 or less, they will steal items that they need to complete actions. For example, if set to eat food, they will steal food. Alval's Responsibility is 30. He was probably hungry. --Morrolan (talk) 14:30, 10 October 2013 (GMT)