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Welcome and Thanks

Thank you for cleaning up the Interior Cells page and for doing the testing on the Execution Point "glitch". It looks like you know what you're doing when it comes to editing so I'll skip the usual welcome except to say that you should feel free to ask a Mentor for help if there's anything you want help with. I hope you keep up the good work! rpeh •T•C•E• 00:26, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

ONPCRP

Hey, thank you for taking interest in the ONPCRP. Unfortunately your edit to Francine Velain does not fit in with our usual method of displaying information. Please look over the project page and take a look at an almost complete NPC to familiarize yourself with our way of presentation. After you have done this, could you adjust the page and any subsequent pages you edit accordingly. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me or any of the other project members and i hope you can play an active part in the project - Emoboy64 18:17, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I'll have all following edits be in the preferred fashion, sorry for the inconvenience.Alpha Kenny Buddy 18:51, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem, make sure to adjust all your edits you have made. - Emoboy64 18:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I just redid one of the pages I expanded. Please inform me of any mistakes I made so I don't remake them if I am to edit the others. Her it is.Alpha Kenny Buddy 19:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'm going to give you some help with this. We do not have headers on the individual section, we make them one consistent article. Secondly, please add your name to the template at the top, so we know what has been done on the page and thirdly, read over the links i sent you previously and don't hesitate to ask if you need more help - Emoboy64 19:31, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I corrected everything now. I think, I added my name to the template where it was applicable and removed the header from the Quest related events section unless you wanted me to remove every separated section and merge it into a single article. If their is still any problems please fix them so I know what is specifically wrong. I won't edit it anymore until you (or someone related to the project) confirm I am not screwing up the pages I'm working on. I am once again sorry for making your job harder than it needed to be.Alpha Kenny Buddy 20:07, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

If you look at Mirie's page now, you will see roughly how the pages should be layed out. If you could, please go over your other contributions and bump them up to this standard, it will be greatly appreciated. And don't worry about making mistakes, we all make them. - Emoboy64 20:18, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

(←) Instead of sleeping, I noticed you updating your pages to standards, please continue this and its good work you have been doing to them, made better by the updated layouts. Thanks for your contributions, and don't hesitate to ask if you need anything - Emoboy64 03:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

One little point: please be careful only to add the unique dialogue for NPCs. Although Pajeen does indeed use the line "Boethia has opened a portal for you. Consider yourself lucky. You have the chance to die in Boethia's service.", so do Tolvasa Sendas and Haekwon, so we wouldn't mention it. Ditto the "You have returned, and you are not a corpse. Boethia may be pleased by this." line. The same also applies to "Blessed are you who wields the Goldbrand." - and please note that the version you added isn't quite accurate, and nor is "There's nothing to see here. Why don't you just go home?"

I don't want to put you off, because you've been doing some very helpful things, but please make sure that what you add is 100% accurate. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, I though it was notable as daedric worshipers play very small roles in the game, and have limited dialogue, but I'll make sure too only include unique lines for now on. I'll also be more careful writing lines too, sorry for any inaccuracies I might of included. I promise to be more careful while editing. Alpha Kenny Buddy 20:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Links

Hey, just a friendly bit of advice. When going through a page earlier on which you edited, i saw you have been linking things like this: [[Oblivion:Red_Velvet_Blouse#Red_Velvet_Blouse|red velvet blouse]] when normally we would link it [[Oblivion:Red Velvet Blouse|red velvet blouse]] you dont have to worry about the what it says in the URL bar, as the clothing items will redirect automatically, and the links work without the underscores. It isnt anything major, just to do with how we usually do things. Keep up the good work and ask if you need anything.

P.S. You finally made a user page! No more red links! - Emoboy64 02:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

For the Record

I did all of the edits to the Hircine cultists pages a second ago, I just accidentally logged out I guess. That is why it credits me in the re-write tab. Alpha Kenny Buddy 18:16, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Quick request

Hey there! Just tweaked a bit on the Count Andel Indarys page and added your name as the "second" dialogue author - good work! A quick request, though; when adding info, it would be most useful for other project members of you made a small mention about how you wrote it (on the tag); from the CS or in-game - like this. --Krusty 20:17, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I know that I am supposed to put my name on the rewrite tab. I did not know you could have multiple people claim to have worked on the same task though (I previously thought you could only also of claimed to have checked it). Thanks for informing me. I'll mention that I used the CS to do the check on Coun Andel's page in a second. Alpha Kenny Buddy 22:03, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Cookie

You have been given a cookie! Your dedication and diligence to the wiki has not gone unnoticed. A user has seen the progress you've made, and has given you a cookie because of it. Good work! The user had the following to say: Your edits are smart and well thought, keep it up!Western3589 05:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Userbox.

Yeah, That was a mistake. Meant to be Bosmer. Sorry.G-Raffe 07:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Good work

You have been given a cookie! Your dedication and diligence to the wiki has not gone unnoticed. A user has seen the progress you've made, and has given you a cookie because of it. Good work! The user had the following to say: Thanks for taking care of all those quest notes. Heavy pruning, but I don't think anything important was removed, and it's all on the talk page if anybody wants any of it back. rpeh •T•C•E• 17:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookie, that was why I moved them all to the talk pages, so I wouldn't make any mistakes while doing this gardening work. --AKB ^Talk 17:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey! Are you hungry?

You have been given a cookie! Your dedication and diligence to the wiki has not gone unnoticed. A user has seen the progress you've made, and has given you a cookie because of it. Good work! The user had the following to say: Very nice job removing the notes! The quest pages look much better without them in my opinion, haha. Razor 17:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the second one Razor! --AKB ^Talk 17:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Plant.

I am just adding that because it sounds like an easter egg to me. — Unsigned comment by JackTurbo95 (talk • contribs) at 18:53 on 21 February 2011 (UTC)

It's not an easter egg, linky [here]. As I said it is a real plant. --AKB ^Talk 18:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit:WTF, I just had an edit conflict with myself... --AKB ^Talk 18:54, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

WTF ^ Also you never said that before so how was I suppossed to know ? — Unsigned comment by JackTurbo95 (talk • contribs) at 18:58 on 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I made a note of this fact when I moved your note to the morning glory talk page. As you can see here my comment pre-dates my reply to this conversation, Link. --AKB ^Talk 18:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I didn't know you moved it there but oh well. — Unsigned comment by JackTurbo95 (talk • contribs) at 19:02 on 21 February 2011 (UTC)

UP rights

I've granted you Userspace Patroller rights. Feel free to add the {{User Userspace Patroller}} userbox to your userpage. Let me know if you have any questions. --GK^talk2me 21:44, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks GK, I already started, and I believe I am fairly confident with my new responsibilities. --AKB ^Talk 21:49, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Congrats.

Congratulations on being a UP man! JackTurbo95 08:03, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and congratulations on your admittance into the Userspace-patrollers part as well. --AKB ^{Talk Contribs} 12:35, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks and no problem. JackTurbo95 18:40, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk page removal

What are talk pages -for- then? By your logical edit mine should be more or less cleared.- Vanguard 02:05, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

If you wish to clear your talk page feel free to, you could even remove my notice as it is not a warning. To answer your question talk pages are for discussing editing, though non-editing topics often come up, they generally consist of more than just "Yea". My point is that comments or topics on talk pages should at least be about something. --AKB ^{Talk Contribs Email} 02:13, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Would it be acceptable if I just reposted explaining my complete agreement with how awesome argonians are? Or something?- Vanguard 02:17, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, generally speaking as long as it is possible to reply too no one will mind. People rarely care what is put on talk pages, so don't expect to here me complain ever again. Just remember Argonian8 has just as much a right to remove comments from his talk page as much as you have the right to do so on your talk page. --AKB ^{Talk Contribs Email} 02:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

I get that. As some perspective, I'm from a wiki where NO talk pages are allowed to be removed, only archived. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.- Vanguard 02:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

did not edit anything

dont know what you are talking about, have never edited anything on this site, anon user purely for walkthrough purposes — Unsigned comment by 76.121.59.144 (talk) at 22:58 on 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are talking about, I've never given you a warning, notice or commented on a topic you started as this is the first post associated with this IP. However this has reminded me of another topic... --AKB ^{Talk Contribs Email} 22:58, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Perfectly Reasonable.

I had a very good reason to have posted it. The character involved in the quest in Morrowind, involving that book, bore a strong resemblance to Mojo, and I remarked as such. Moreover, it was a Talk page (Which I understand to be used for "Talking about related topics", or else it would be called "Content Fascists Delete Anything Remotely Off-Topic"), so it wasn't as if I were adding irrelevant information to the article itself. If there was a problem with the comment being in the Talk page about the book because the character was only vicariously related to it, and needed to be moved to the Talk page about the character himself, then THAT'S the reason that should have been given for deletion. Don't call me "pointless". Predcon 12:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

If you have a problem with having your your edits being reverted you should take it to an Admin. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 13:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Also your comment would of been no more appropriate on Yagrum Bagarn's article as it was a forum-like post, which are generally deleted. And I did not call you pointless, I called your edition pointless, try to differentiate between a personal attack and a disagreement about editing. I only bring this up as you clearly intend to make this personal. [here] you deleted my comment, calling it "condescending" (Which it wasn't even that mind you, I was agreeing with someone else). Since you want to cause a fight I will defuse it here, this is why I deleted your post.

1)Off topic

2)Forum-like post

3)It was already deleted once, I was supporting DKong's decision

Please don't take this fight any further, no one else does. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 19:59, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Nice userpage!

I remember before, when it just said something like "This page only exist because i dont want my name to be a red link leading nowhere". It looks real good right now, and its nice to see who you realy are:) --Archain 16:40, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't think I left any personal details though... I'll have to take a second look at it. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 16:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, i probably dont now who you realy are yet, but it looks nicer with more info anyway. --Archain 16:56, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Userpage.

Do you know nothing about any games ? =D Nice page though! 95.39.47.51 19:36, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

UP Status

Hey! I have added headers to this LIST, detailing Userspace Patrollers, simply to keep track of the active/semi-active/in-active UPs, so if you could take a look at the list and make a decision. If you are active, do nothing; if you are semi-active, add that next to your name (example) – or, if you are inactive, please move your name to the appropriate section. Also, remember to update your status if your activity changes along the way. Thanks. Oh, and if you have any questions, please ask them on talk page, not here. --Krusty 13:20, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

PC Gamer News

The few new items on that should go on the Skyrim page. I don't think it's news-worthy on its own. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:58, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Drain Skill

Taken from the Drain Skill page:

• One application of Drain Skill is to train a skill, because training can be bought more cheaply. However, Drain Skill has no effect upon how long it takes to gain experience in the skill. It will still take the exact same number of spell casts, for example, to gain one level as it would if there was no active Drain Skill effect. However, Drain Skill's negative effects may make training easier indirectly. For example, draining Blade will make your attacks weaker, allowing more hits on your target before having to restore his health.

Thus your edit to Armorer would be incorrect. I cannot personally vouch for its accuracy though. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 20:12, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

I already undid it. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 20:13, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

It would take the same number of repairs to gain skill, but you can repair the same equipment more times, since your repairs are less effective. On the other hand, you would break more hammers. That is what the anonymous author was saying --Brf 20:17, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Flora

Hey, I think you should go ahead and launch the Flora hub page at this page. Just remove the re-direct and it should work. The trail may need editing to include the hub, but I would leave that to someone else. If you need any help, just ask!- Emoboy64 20:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the support here, but I'll wait until tomorrow so absolutely everyone will have had a fair chance to voice their views. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 20:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Good idea! I hope they also agree its at a launchable state! Good work with that! - Emoboy64 20:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Thank you for the welcome. :) Calcinator 22:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Your welcome. Always great to see new members, I hope you enjoy your stay. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 22:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Will try. Most of my self-taught knowledge of these games is here already. Glad to help where it's still possible to contribute. Calcinator 22:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Congrats

You've been promoted! Feel free to use the {{User Patroller}} userbox. Let me know if you have any questions. --GK^talk2me 21:13, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks GK, now to try out my new powers... --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 21:22, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Good job! Kirbies for all! <('o'<) (>'o')> <('o')> (>^o^<) --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 21:24, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to the team AKB! As a side note, your name makes me both laugh and cringe, which is somewhat painful... well done :) Dlarsh^(T,C) 03:46, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

On that topic, I had never noticed until a few days ago, when something similar was on...Memebase maybe? Some Cheezburger site. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 03:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

(←) A little late, but just saw this. Congrats again! - Emoboy64 00:08, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Very late congratulations. JackTurbo95 16:55, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Task List

The task list instructions does not say that anonymous users should be deleting tasks from the list. The particular task in question was already crossed out. --Brf 15:46, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

You are right, there is no instructions on anons removing tasks from the list. However it does say:

"When you've finished, delete the task from this page"

I was making an assumption that the task was completed due to both its age and the history on that page. I believe that Timmen forgot to simply remove it. Krusty made a note somewhere that the task list was a mess and needed to be cleaned out (Can't remember where), and I agree with him on that. So my point was that though it was crossed out, it didn't need to stay there. Why bother cluttering up that page with completed tasks? --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 16:07, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think an anon should be deleting a task, whether it has been completed or not. In this case it should be deleted by the user who claimed it, or whomever defined the task. --Brf 16:10, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't believe that the anon removing it is the issue here, you aren't supposed to leave completed tasks on the Task List. Logically it would make more sense to re-add the task to the list as unclaimed then to re-add it. I see no problems with the current article, and since Timmen did some major work on that page shortly after taking on the task in October of 2008, I believe that it is a perfectly logical action to remove this task. Of course you could ask Timenn if he is done working on it, and if he confirms the page still needs work I will concede the point, but considering the evidence I have provided I don't see that as a necessary action. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 16:37, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

My issue was with the anon doing the removing. Since a patroller, like myself, did the last deletion in this case, the matter is moot. --Brf 16:54, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok so the guy undid his glitch

But I did the same thing with my glitch and it got undone what gives --Candc4 04:21, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

If you mean this, than it was because you didn't undo it so much as overwrote your old section without providing an explanation as why you did that, it is one thing to remove a section without any replies a moment after adding it, and another to remove a discussion and adding what appeared to be an incomprehensible post to the patroller who undid it. Also as a courtesy, please provide links to what you are talking about so I don't have to spend a moment looking up this. May I also suggest that you focus on content edits for a while? Patrolling requires quite a bit experience to understand the subtle and more difficult edits, and the easiest way to learn how to patrol is to read around and work with content pages. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 03:49, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok sounds good, is adding the having multipal rockshatters screws up the quest When a Vow Breaks it's explained in the talk page but it is like it does not exist in the main page a good start--Candc4 04:21, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Lore:Sheogorath

I agree, it's a very nice page, but shouldn't the whole "In the games" section be removed? It's mostly (if not entirely) repeating info already on the page, and it flies in the face of the style guidelines for lore articles. Minor Edits 04:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, you are correct. However I suggest re-writing that information so it is still on the page, but from a historical point of view, instead of the current one in which it acknowledges the games. The information itself is good, just not the style it is presented in. Of course the repeated information is a seperate problem, with this I suggest you get creative on what you keep, and what you remove. Try to avoid redundancy, but if it is impossible to do so without destroying a sections narrative some redundancy isn't that bad. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 04:16, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Check what i made

You have been sent to Oblivion! You have been given an all expenses paid trip to Oblivion as a reward for all of your hard work, enjoy your stay! Remember to send us a post card from the Deadlands! your the first to get one--Candc4 20:55, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

— Unsigned comment by Candc4 (talk • contribs) at 20:51 on 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! I wouldn't recommend using that very often though, especially after an argument. People might take it the wrong way. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 20:51, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Its for spammers--Candc4 20:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

ok I plan to make different ones — Unsigned comment by Candc4 (talk • contribs) at 21:28 on 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Right, I hate to say it but your templates aren't going to see any use. We already have proper messages for all of these situations that much more clearly explains why you are being blocked, warned etc. As you can see the standard messages that I linked are clearly much more appropriate and clear for there purposes. Though it may feel good to mock spammers and vandals it will eventually cause more problems than they solve, I suggest just sticking with the one you first showed me, which is undoubtedly nice (You should fix the intro message though). Also, where did you get the image for these? Did you make it yourself? --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 21:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Come on spammers don't have feelings their spammers --Candc4 22:17, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

The image is from here, by the way. Legoless 22:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

(←) Exactly why we don't pursue fights with them. We all hate them, and yet it is better to save your energy for another fight. As for the vandals, well for the most part all they want is a reaction, the less of one we give them the more likely they will give up. As I said these aren't likely to see use, especially in the cases of when someone is mistakenly warned when they were editing in good faith. These will end up offending somebody, and it is not a good idea to go off making enemies when the site relies on a community for it to grow.

I'd recommend you blank the other templates besides the original (Maybe change the opening too something instead of a remark about one being stupid? As it is a prize template someone may get the wrong idea of its purpose) and add at the top {{speed|Blanked by sole contributor}} to the top so the admins know you are okay with them being deleted.

By the way, I knew which file Candc4 used, I was asking him/her where he/she got the image from when he/she uploaded it. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 22:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm intruding a bit, but I couldn't help noticing this in the recent changes. I really do want to annoy spammers as much as they annoy me, but mocking their mockery of this site would only lead to them finding humor in the hypocritical nature of the message. This is in addition to them seeing that spamming is a game. It's a truly annoying thing, so goating them on will not see beneficial results. Perhaps if we could get blockers to incorporate this into the blocking notices, we could get that "In-your-Face" pride boost, and also prevent the spam. Or another idea: this template puts the user on a list for blockers to review, a sort of purgatory for the ne'er-do-wells. As a fellow template editor, I would hate to see this effort go to waste. - Neural Tempest 23:36, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Right, let me just start by saying that many blockers (Admins and the few Blockusers) watch recent changes like hawks (More like gargoyles really since they serve as the sites guardians, not important to this chain of thought, I just wanted to point out that it would be awesome if our sysops were sentient stone statues). Failing that their are appropriate channels to alerting blockers to trouble makers. I also wish to say that we do not want our blockers to treat blocking like anything but a last resort measure, an "in-your-face" message would be extremely rude to both those who deserved to be blocked, and those who were blocked when they shouldn't been. Would you want to be a part of a community that openly mocks you after blocking you? I wouldn't.

We want our blockers to only block when it is the only way to improve on an issue, if we were to do this we would be telling them to block people when they think it would help them win an argument, (Note: I'm not saying I don't have faith in our admins, I just don't want to send the wrong message to future blockers) which is why you would do anything that is considered to be "in your face". Let's look at this hypothetical situation, you are on a forum. You end up getting in a fight over one of the millions of things that you can fight about. It is a long, arduous argument that divides the community as this is one of the things without a real right answer, just opinions on the subject. Finally you think of some perfect way to "win" the fight. You post what you believe to be a witty, well written, well sourced, and logical. You post this, knowing that you beat your opponent to the point that you say something to that effort at the end of it to clarify that you believed that this was intended to end the argument. Then they come back with a post just a good as yours, if not better, in fact it changes some of you previous supporters opinions on the subject due to your earlier attitude. Who wants to support an asshole, right? Now imagine that you are a moderator, and you end this argument by blocking the guy right after posting you "witty" reply, now you are not only clearly in the wrong, but you lost support from the community as well.

As our admins derive their powers from the communities trust in them this not only de-valued the precise reason we gave them powers, but this incident also embarrassed the community as a whole. This wouldn't just make any accidents (Unfair or undeserved bans) or fights much, much worse, but it would also fracture the community. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 00:35, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

No, I think you kind of misunderstood me. I'm not saying we should use this template to block users, or inflame an arguement. I simply think that creating a list of people with distasteful edit histories could be a use for this template. I also thought the "In-your-face" tone of the message would be somewhat applicable if an editor makes quite a few filthy edits. I'm not suggesting the reduction of the value of the blockers, and I'm not suggesting blocking people just because they are argumentative. Normal editors could not block/ban, but only add the IPs/accounts to a list for Observation or review.

The list would be constantly shrunk by patrollers, either by taking action or repealling the user review. Purgatory in the context I used was simply as a "Yet to be judged" pile, not condemnation itself. Sorry about that misinterpretation.- Neural Tempest 00:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I did not misunderstand you. But why would we need this? It usually only takes a second to review an editors history, especially if they are trouble makers as a quick glance at there talk page will likely show warnings and the like, as it is I only notice a few blocks only every now and than. This is because despite a coming storm, things are surprisingly calm editing wise. Besides, as I already said, if someone is making trouble and you wish to bring this fact to the attention of those who can do something about it, just leave a message here and a patroller or admin will notice it soon enough. Also, once again our empowered members keep an eye out for vandalism in recent changes, if they notice a string of nonsense edits or spam they will do something to stop it. We don't need to "review" our editors on a regular basis believe it or not. Also once again I don't believe it is appropriate for an Arbiter of the Community (Another cool title for our sysops, I hope at least one of these will catch on!) to behave in a manner that could be described as rude, as it will undoubtedly violate good faith. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 01:15, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Roger that- I could not see any other possible use against spammers (This template was described for use against them). I simply tried to advocate some possible use. I do agree with you that there are better alternatives, so usage against said spammers would indeed simply be inflammatory. Given this fact, I don't see how else we could use this template, except as an obvious joke, in which case it would be considered essentially spam. Checking the templates, there are actually at least 3 different versions with different names, (Template:Oblivion, Template:Oblivion Spammers, and Template:Oblivion Nonsense). Given that anti-spammer use would be null, and joking/jesting usage might create an edit war, or be considered spam, how do we proceed, and develop/redevelop these? I wouldn't want to waste them.- Neural Tempest 01:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

(←) I just proded the Spammers and Nonsense version, I think the remaining version could be turned into an actual prize. Changing the intro message to something along the lines of:

"Your efforts on the Wiki have torn Oblivion asunder!"

I guess it might be a somewhat funny way to thank an editor for pointing out a major flaw in the wiki that required a lot of (necessary) work, or for creating a major task that turns into a major project. I can see a few uses for this, and since I am the only recipient for this it can easily be changed without causing any problems. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 01:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I'll be in favour of that, and I could do it, adding in parameters and formatting. This is Candc4's pet project however, and first template that I know of. I'll let Candc4 decide how to modify it, and just make a suggestion on their talk page. I'd prefer not to mess around with another editor's "baby". We'll see how it turns out in a week from now, it'll probably be a funny prize. - Neural Tempest 02:35, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I also made a template for the Fanfiction writers here.

You have been given an award for writing Great Fanfiction! Your dedication and diligence to creating a formidable piece of Fanfiction has not gone unnoticed. A user has seen the progress you've made, and has given you this award because of it. Good work!

--Iamgoofball 04:35, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I think this is has been a good day, I've been granted two rewards and I've yet to do absolutely anything to earn them! --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 04:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

That award is a false! So, HAH!--Iamgoofball 05:12, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Could you help me with this damn image — Unsigned comment by Candc4 (talk • contribs) at 04:44 on 1 May 2011 (UTC)

You have been given the title Sheogorath! Because of your crazy awesome wiki spirit you became the lord of madness Sheogorath, Time for a celebration... Cheese for everyone! Wait, Scratch that. Cheese for no one. If this text is appearing in place of your message, type "message=" at the start of your message.

(←) I fixed it. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 04:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay... enough new prize templates. This is getting a bit silly. rpeh •T•C•E• 10:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Warning

Howdy, this is Minor Edits not signed in. I did NOT make the edit warned about here: http://uesp.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:96.4.127.20&redirect=no. I have no idea what's going on. I've made a handful of edits while not signed in to the site, but never vandalism. There seems to be some IP confusion. 71.63.129.124 17:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

However, it does look pretty hilarious. Almost wish I could take credit.  : ) Minor Edits 17:10, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

That isn't your IP, we are having problems with IP's getting other IPs warnings right now. Don't worry about it. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 17:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, your IP DOES have a warning attached to it, as seen here. I would guess it was for this edit. Personally I don't think that is worthy of all full blown warning, but still... If that was actually you don't do it again as you have been quite useful and I'd hate to see you banned. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 17:34, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that ... I don't even remember that. Must've been drunk. Won't happen again. Anyways, sorry for spamming your page; I didn't see the false flag message until too late. Minor Edits 17:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

IP in recent changes log

Hey! Recently you removed one of my discussion posts because it was forum like. I totally get that. Downside is you referenced me by IP rather than username in the recent changes log, and it's my work IP. Can we remove that? Nikomis 18:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but once an edit is made by an IP, it stays in the logs forever. There's nothing we can do about it. rpeh •T•C•E• 18:34, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, you weren't logged in so when I clicked undo it referred to your IP and not your user name. I'm terribly sorry but it's impossible to change edit summaries when they are submitted. I really am sorry if I get you in trouble with your work place, and I would certainly of edited it if it was possible. But as it explains on Help:Edit Summary edit summaries are set in stone. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 18:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Strange that it isn't going to my username instead because when I click on that IP, it goes to my account... Nikomis 18:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

That probably is because you signed with your user name when posting from that IP. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 18:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks like it happened again to me here, so don't worry about the last IP reference. For some reason my work computer likes to just randomly log me out. I'll have to check every time I go to post from now on. Nikomis 21:11, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Great work

You have been given a Watcher's Eye! This Watcher's Eye was awarded for your exemplary patrolling of several recent edits, including dealing with mistakes from other regular editors. Thanks for the great work! rpeh •T•C•E• 23:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC).

What are you referring too? Not that I don't appreciate the award I just would like too know what prompted it. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 23:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

You probably just edit-sniped him, hitting the "undo" button a few seconds earlier than he could. Either that, or Rpeh simply noticed the string of good reverts and replies on your contributions page. In any case, keep up the good work. - Neural Tempest 00:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

You've been doing great stuff in general, but this was particularly impressive - most editors are all too quick to step up to criticise, but you took the lead in apologising for the reverts (I hadn't noticed that there were FOUR - I only saw two non-patrolled ones); then this made me realise that you've really got the hang of it.

Nephele and I created the {{Watcher's Eye}} template to reward good patrolling because we were both worried that there weren't as many active patrollers as there should be and we wanted a way to say "well done" when we saw good patrolling. Quite simply, I keep seeing good patrolling from you so it's time you got the appropriate reward even though we have rather more good patrollers these days. rpeh •T•C•E• 00:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

sorry

ok im sorry but where shud i put the pic ? also im suprised u noticed it that fast XD — Unsigned comment by Dahamonnah (talk • contribs) at 00:04 on 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello Dahamonnah, as a patroller it is my duty to notice these things. You shouldn't put that picture anywhere else because it is both a duplicate image of this and an image for a yet to be released game. It is already in an appropriate place on this page. I recommend you read the links I left you on your talk page as well. Welcome to the site! --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 00:04, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

While I'm not AKB, I still saw what you did, and got ninja'd by AKB. Anyway, The image isn't necessary on any pages yet, especially not in the lore section, in which screenshots aren't necessary. If you want to put the pic somewhere, you should put it on your user page or talk page.--Pwnageincarnate 00:06, 9 May 2011 (UTC)Pwnageincarnate

I already marked it to be speedied so not really. Please if you must use the other one I linked. Preferably with proper resizing so it doesn't take up the whole page... --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 00:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

An orc in Skyrim

Edit: To clarify use the coding [[File:SR-Orc01 wLegal.jpg|thumb|An orc in Skyrim]] Too get the image you can see on the right, if I remember we explain this kind of thing in the links I gave you. By doing this you won't have the full image take up a whole portion of the page, there is virtually no reason to use the full image on an article as they simply take up too much space. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 00:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Sheogorath Overhaul

Hi I just noticed you launched a new Sheogorath page. I was very suprised to see that, because I've been working on one for months (well I started working on it months ago) right here. Yeah... ~ Dwarfmp 11:30, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Well this is awkward... That page is very nice though, and I didn't mean to steal the punch from you. I was simply unaware of your efforts truth be told. Since this was primarily an attempt to just add the dialogue (Which took a lot of time, which is why I made a sandbox for it) and not an overhaul like yours, there are two logical courses of actions left. You can either finish your page and replace my latest version when done, or and this is the course of action I'd recommend simply because I somewhat prefer my results in some areas compared to yours, you can of course simply combine the best attributes of your sandbox and the newly expanded article for best results. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 16:08, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I didn't assume you knew about my work :) Combining things should indeed be the best option. This is a bit awkward exactly, but as you said, when mine is finished, which it almost is (although I haven't really worked on it in a while), combined with yours it could only lead to an even better article. So in the end, the more people work on a page the better right? I'll let you know when I'm finished so it can be discussed. Also I assume that in order to "nail" the Sheogorath page, I was going to have to work on the Jyggalag page as well, being the same person and all... I'm not implying you aren't to work on Jyggalag, you MAY of course, but I just wanted to put that out there :P ~ Dwarfmp 18:52, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I just found out something depressing

That's my schools IP does this mean I get blocked or does it mean I can't edit at school Sorry about quad post that lag right now is terriable— Unsigned comment by Candc4 (talk • contribs) at 16:47 on 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I am not the most familiar with blocking policy, ask an admin or blockuser for a more informed answer. I would assume that you can log in even if your IP was blocked though, so you should be okay. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 16:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Great that takes a load off my mind--Candc4 16:48, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

oblivon talk: Jake

The argument I mentioned was the Anon who used a personal attack.--Iamgoofball 02:52, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Right, you don't need to ask everyone to calm down when a random vandal shows up and trolls a two year old conversation (That was resolved after the second post!). It was a resolved topic, and your post only referred to a removed comment so it wasn't really necessary to recommend people to calm down. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 03:01, 12 May 2011 (UTC)