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Categorization System

I've been loathing the categorization system that we have been using for a while now, and I've begun to plan a way to do something about it. In its current state, the parent-child hierarchy subsystem it uses is separated, categories are orphaned with no parent or child categories, and for some reason, the spaces are replaced by dashes. I have written a system draft on my sandbox that lists a single categorization hierarchy where people can browse through the automatic system to find their desired page. Tell me what you all think about what I've done, improve and increase upon my work if necessary, and give me your thoughts on whether or not this change is desired. --Aristeo 19:52, 21 September 2006 (EDT)

Hmmm, you may want to shift the "Oblivion People by Race" category up under number four "People in Oblivion" (a minor typographical error).

That much aside, might I ask for some elaboration on the underlying premise of this suggestion? I'm afraid I am simply not grasping what it is you are proposing. -- Booyah boy 01:34, 22 September 2006 (EDT)

I'm proposing to gut out most of the categories from pages and replace them with the system on my sandbox. I'm doing this for cosmetic purposes (the dashes in the names annoy me), and for organization (replacing it with a hierarchy tree). --Aristeo 01:44, 22 September 2006 (EDT)

I'm still not completely clear on the scope of what you're proposing to do. Is this primarily just a suggestion to replace the page that comes up at Categories? Or you thinking of a more complete revamp of the category system? Would category tags be changed on most pages? Some pages?

Also, I'm not sure why some existing categories have vanished in your new list. Oblivion-Items, as one example, since I've added a few dozen pages under that category to this week. And I think even the existing categories are probably incomplete (I know Werdnanoslen has created a lot of new trails lately; probably most of those trails should have corresponding categories). Do you think the list of categories needs to be reduced? Or just reorganized? --Nephele 17:29, 22 September 2006 (EDT)

My plan is to replace the categories that we have with the category system on my sandbox. By replacing, I mean moving categories like "Oblivion-Items" to "Items in Oblivion" or "Oblivion Items", deleting unneeded categories, and creating new ones. To address your second question, some categories have disappeared from the list I'm working on because I started that list from scratch, and I simply haven't gone through the current category system to see what I unintentionally left out. And finally, I'm not sure exactly how detailed we want to be with the categories. Some games with less pages should definitely have not as many categories, simply because there's not as much to sort through. --Aristeo 19:23, 22 September 2006 (EDT)

My only concern is - this is a major amount of work, for not all that much pay-off. Just changing the categories on all the NPC pages alone would be a huge job. Then all the quests, all the item pages, etc. You really want to shake all that up just because hyphens annoy you? Just seems like the current system is so entrenched it might not be worth it... --TheRealLurlock 00:06, 23 September 2006 (EDT)

It's not as much work as you might think. A good majority of the categories are transcluded onto a page from a bread crumb trail or other source, and I'm not planning on touching a few of the categories. This would also be a good project for me when I need something that doesn't require too much thinking to accomplish. Also, my reason for doing this is not only because I dislike dashes; this would also better the organization of the site. --Aristeo 00:35, 23 September 2006 (EDT)