User talk:Anil/Sandbox Aleph

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Hi, Anil! Would you like any specific help? I have been following some of the Heroes around the hall already, figuring out their schedules and habits :) Also two heroes are missing images. Would you like to take those yourself or prefer somebody else to do it? ~ Shuryard (talk) 17:52, 13 February 2014 (GMT)

Sure! I play on the PS3 and none of my characters have access to Sovngarde, so I can't easily take images or check schedules. I'm going to be mostly filling in inventory information from the cslist, so any help you can give would be appreciated. Here's a little list of what stuff I could use, feel free to edit the sandbox with any information.
  1. Pictures of the other heroes
  2. Schedules for all the heroes that move around/where all the different heroes are located in Sovngarde
  3. The bards. From what I can tell, one bard should play the lute and the other should play the drum and neither of them should sing, but I'd like to confirm that ingame. --AN|L (talk) 18:53, 13 February 2014 (GMT)
The drummer bard is always in the East Wing, always on the same spot and he is drumming non-stop. Another bard is in the central part of the Hall, where the empty throne of Shor is. This bard is changing between the lute and the flute and sometimes takes a break, but never leaves his spot. There is a bit of info about those two guys on the Hall of Valor page. ~ Shuryard (talk) 20:01, 13 February 2014 (GMT)

"Same" female Heroes[edit]

They have the same base class, but they are three different NPCs nevertheless. They also belong to the sparring faction, meaning they use its dialogue as well. ~ Shuryard (talk) 20:13, 13 February 2014 (GMT)

Well yes. They are three versions of an identical NPC, so they all have the same armor, packages, etc. As for the dialogue, they have a package labled NoHello, which I believe means that they will only say that one line when the player speaks to them, though they can still use the sparring conversations. --AN|L (talk) 20:20, 13 February 2014 (GMT)
Ok, I got your meaning. I just checked in game and those three also use the standard hero's dialogue at the top of this page as well as Conversations at the bottom. I checked CS and it looks like NoHello is a package which affects their schedule but not dialogue. ~ Shuryard (talk) 21:19, 13 February 2014 (GMT)

"Does not carry"[edit]

Hey Anil! When I changed "nothing" to "no weapon" what I meant was that nobody in the Hall of Valor carries anything except for weapons. It is afterlife after all :) I am wondering if it should be mentioned somewhere on the page? ~ Shuryard (talk) 02:05, 18 February 2014 (GMT)

I don't think so, most every NPC in Skyrim carries a weapon of some type. These are unusual NPCs, but they need to be treated like any other NPC. If you could fill in the schedules for the rest of the heroes, that would be great. What I'd like to do is put all the heroes who share a schedule together, since most of the heroes wear the same armor and have the same weapons. --AN|L (talk) 21:11, 22 February 2014 (GMT)
Yes, I agree that we need to treat them as NPCs, just since you want to combine some info that was one thought: to say in the description in the beginning of the article that none of them carry anything except for the weapons and none of them wear helmets. Now, another thing about combining info: I thought I did a decent job in varying those "identical" females description. I can easily let it go, no problem, but don't you think the page looks kind of empty when you combine info on three NPCs like this? ~ Shuryard (talk) 03:22, 23 February 2014 (GMT)
Carrying nothing except for weapons wouldn't really apply, as neither of the bards carry weapons. As for the identical females, I'm conflicted about that. On one hand it does look rather empty (the images will stay no matter what) but on the other hanf it's the same information three times. This is an odd page to be dure, all the heroes have the same names but they are neither all identical (like impetial soldiers or the souls in dawnguard) nor all different. --AN|L (talk) 00:37, 23 February 2014 (EST)
Yes, that is a rather unique cohort... I see two possible solutions: we can use one image for those three "Valkyries" and one NPC table listing Ref IDs separated by commas or (if the images stay) we can revert the description I wrote for them: yes, it is the same information, but I paraphrased it enough, I believe, for it not to be too boring. Any other ideas? ~ Shuryard (talk) 06:11, 23 February 2014 (GMT)