Oblivion talk:Ulen Athram

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Ulen Athram attacking[edit]

Ulen Athram also happened to attack Audens Avidius (from Imperial Corruption) when he sprang out of nowhere to attack me. He paid no attention to me, and the guard nearby ignored him also. I have not yet gone to Kvatch in this game. --Sabrina, grateful uespwiki user — Unsigned comment by 75.55.115.198 (talk) at 00:43 on 23 April 2007 (GMT)

Every Mythic Dawn sleeper agent in the game will atack you if their Disposition is lowered far enough, no matter what point you are in the Main Quest. There are a few ways to lower Disposition: Persuasion, committing a crime against (or in front) of them, drawing a weapon, or casting a Command Humanoid Spell on them. —Dark Spark 13:18, 9 February 2008 (EST)
Once Athram got into a fight in the city (not against me) and he summoned hes MD armor and weapon. Once the fight was over, he was still wearing his MD Armor! I could even speak to him with it on... 80.175.11.99 12:34, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Where is Ulen Athram supposed to be?[edit]

Where's this guy supposed to be at 6PM on a Loredas? --Debatra 20:00, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Random Attack[edit]

I was in the Imperial City and i fast-traveled to the Arcane University, and right in front of me Ulen Athram and Marguerite Diel appeared out of nowhere and started to attack the Imperial Battlemages. The Battlemages killed them, but i'm wondering why they were there in the 1st place. I know they weren't chasing me already because i fast-traveled to the Arcane University. Amantius Allectus 18:56, 29 July 2008 (GMT)

They're both Mythic Dawn cultists and were probably just close enough to you when you arrived that they realised you were there and decided to attack. It happens from time to time. –RpehTCE 15:11, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
Well i reloaded but this time, marguerite diel wasn't there, but Cingor was there. i know this is wrong because i happen to know that cingor lives in leyawiin and not in the imperial city.Amantius Allectus 10:59, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
If you would rather them not dying (or potentially killing other npcs) I would suggest reloading again until they don't appear, or reloading from an earlier save and fast traveling to a spot outside the Imp. City and walking in. From my experience the mythic dawn cult members and assassins tend to be extreemly sensitive to fast traveling into the imperial city, and quite often end up causing the deaths of numerous npcs.--AlphamanT 15:55, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

He or She?[edit]

(s)He flirts both sides of it heh? ;) 80.240.18.165 23:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

It is a standard greeting, so he is not flirting at all. --Krusty 13:01, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Mythic dawn commentaries[edit]

On my game, there are no mythic dawn commentaries in Athram's study.

This is the first time Ive been in his house. The desk in his study has nothing on it but a bottle of ale, and two volumes of the biography of Barenziah inside.

On this playthrough Ive done the path of dawn quest, but not the one after that.

--Merari 05:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Vols 1 and 2 are definitely there at the start. If they aren't there any more, somebody must have picked them up - maybe they'll be on Ulen's person? rpeh •TCE 12:00, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Good idea! Ill kill him and his wife and find out:) (Dont worry, due to the magic of reloading a previous save theyll be allright and alive in the end;) --Merari 16:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Hmm this is odd. I just did so and the books are not on their inventory, or in any container or on a surface in the house. Is it possible one of them picked them up, wandered through the city and left them elsewhere? I suppose its not important except for curiosity value, the books arent that rare.
Ill include some background info. It is frostfall 24, 3E434. I have done the Dagon Shrine quest to the point where I took the Mysterium and saved Jeelius, but I havent delivered the book to Martin yet. I play on xbox, on the disk that also includes the game bioshock. As far as I know, its a totally unpatched edition.
--Merari 16:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Well they aren't referenced by any script, so someone must have picked them up! rpeh •TCE 20:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Funny bug[edit]

Today my sister played and she encountered a strange bug. Ulen was walking around elven garden in his mythic dawn armor. He still talked as normal. (sorry if my english is a bit bad) — Unsigned comment by 83.183.34.159 (talk) at 17:05 on 9 January 2011 (GMT)

Chorrol topic?[edit]

I was walking by the Imperial City, and I talked with him, the strange thing is, I can ask him about Chorrol, is this a bug, or is it normal? This also happens when I talk with the countess Alessia Caro, while she walks from Leyawiin to Chorrol.

Also, I just completed the quest Spies, and he doesn't attack me, his disposition was 5, and I still can raise it.

Sorry for my english. — Unsigned comment by TFH97 (talkcontribs) at 00:45 on 23 July 2011 (GMT)

He's in the Chorrol faction, so he acts like any other citizen of Chorrol. It's not a bug. --Legoless 23:48, 22 July 2011 (UTC)