Morrowind talk:Thieves Tools

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i found all of these tools in the GoTY Xbox game.

DevilDog 19:27, 10 October 2008 (EDT)DevilDog

Really? Where did you find the Secret Master probe and lockpick? 20:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

hmm...i think that he is lying but i have a way to test where did you find the secret master stuff?if he dosn't reply he was lying!--GUM!!! 16:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Grandmaster Stuff[edit]

Is there any other place to find grandmaster picks & probes other than on the table next to the short blade master trainer? MrSensiBob 19:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

There's another pick in Endusal, Kagrenac's Study. Otherwise you have to get lucky because the only place is in random loot - specifically the l_n_lockpicks, bm_random_lockpick and l_n_probe lists. After level 20 you should start to find grandmaster items. It can take quite a while though. rpeh •TCE 20:49, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

kk thanks for the info! MrSensiBob 21:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Lock levels[edit]

The article doesn't tell, which lockpick opens a specific lock level. Am I having a bug, or is it normal, that Master's lockpick doesn't open lock level 100, and says: Lock too complex? — Unsigned comment by (talk) on 10 August 2011

There's no specific lock level for each lockpick. The chance of you opening a lock is based on the pick and your security skill through some formula we don't know. You'll have to visit a trainer or pick lower-level locks to improve your security skill if you're getting a "too complex" message. rpeh •TCE 16:14, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
OK, thanks a lot for the info!— Unsigned comment by (talk) at 11:32 on 12 August 2011
The formula is given on the Security page - it appears that even if your Security skill is low, you can still open tough locks if you boost your Agility and/or Luck high enough 18:39, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Chance to Unlock[edit]

Is the formula correct? It says it depends on Agility, but Security is a skill governed by Intelligence. Shouldn't it take Int into account?