Lore talk:Knights of the Nine

Division

It is my speculation that of the original knights; Sir Berich, Sir Casimir, Sir Gregory, and Sir Torolf were the ones to leave for the War of the Red Diamond. (Gadianzero 06:24, 20 January 2009 (EST))

Because they were the ones that fell from grace by killing beggars or whathaveyou? The article is still still missing an In Oblivion section, though I don't know why we call it that.Temple-Zero 10:19, 20 January 2009 (EST)

I'm basing my theory off the dialogue in the Undercroft. Sir Berich obviously left and Sir Casimir admits it when speaking to him about the Gauntlets. However Sirs Geregory and Torolf have almost no dialogue whatsoever. When speaking to them they only mention keeping to the Nine and not getting involved in the wars of men. They have no information on the others or the relics and it would make sense that they would not know if they had left to fight. The knights who do have information are the ones who didn't fight but instead went in search of the Relics. (Gadianzero 11:19, 20 January 2009 (EST))

templar knights

is it just me or does the knights of the nine seem alot like the templar knights they go on crusades and search for holy relics — Unsigned comment by 69.19.14.15 (talk)

Well they are crusaders, and similar armor style to those of the christian Templar knights. History wise is a different story. Western3589 03:07, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Of the NINE?

How were they the Nine Divines in 3E 111, not the Eight Divines (as in Daggerfall)? While Lore: People does claim the Eight Divines became the Nine after the deification of Tiber Septim as Talos (presumably not before his death in 3E 38), it's my understanding that Talos (Tiber Septim, Zurin Arctus, Wulfharth, the whole oversoul mess) didn't actually apostheosize into a deity until the Warp in the West (3E 417). This would make the Knights of the Nine a giant anachronistic blunder on the part of the developers/writers of the DLC. Can this be addressed in the article? -- 88.113.226.197 10:07, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Maybe they were originally the Knights of the Eight, and when Tiber Septim became Talos, they simply changed their name to the Knights of the Nine. Or maybe, since there was now Nine Divines as opposed to Eight, people simply started calling them the Knights of the Nine because it made more sense, and the name stuck? Kitkat1749 10:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

A name change seems unlikely if the last member of the original order died in 3E 153, and in any case that'd be essentially apologism for what really seems like a big writer mistake. There's nothing in the DLC's content that suggests they were ever the Knights of the Eight. I think the article might be more complete with a mention of the apparent disconnect, if it is true - figuring out the exact year the Eight became the Nine isn't really easy, as the Lore articles are a bit contradictory or vague in several places (and I expect that's because the actual sources are). 88.113.226.197 10:30, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, while I see your point, have you ever heard the prophet of Anvil constantly going on about the Eight and One? Maybe the game designers simply changed it to avoid confusion in Oblivion? Kitkat1749 11:28, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Could it refer to Shezarr or Pelinal Whitestrake? — Unsigned comment by 74.199.9.50 (talk) at 00:37 on 16 July 2012

I think he became a god before his worship became widely spread, and the Knights were a little ahead of others. I am not very familiar with the lore, so I might be worng and I apologize in advance if I am, but weren't there a few cults worshiping him before the Warp in the West? The name-change is also possible, considering there are 8-pointed star patterns in the priory Bulvik (talk) 15:57, 3 January 2014 (GMT)